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Unveiling The New Covenant

This is a letter from "Randy". Randy's letter is in regular type. Pastor Ron's responses are in red.

"The thing I would press upon you, to increase in your understanding yet the more is to recognize Paul as separate from the 12 apostles. Paul was a chosen vessel, who spoke to the ascended Lord Jesus”.

The 12 also spoke with the Lord after his resurrection. (Acts 1) For 40 days Jesus taught them things concerning the Kingdom, and then they watched Him ascend into heaven. This was a 40 day period after His resurrection where he personally taught them things concerning the Kingdom. But they still never received it. I do not think anyone of them did until Acts 15 at the council. After the council, I think they all understood the difference, I agree with you--- Paul was definitely a chosen vessel and was different than the others.

The twelve spoke to the resurrected Lord over a 40 day period indeed. However when the Lord ascended into heaven it was told them: Acts 1:11, "Which also said, ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." The Lord Jesus left from the Mount of Olives and is coming back to that same mountain at His coming to earth (Zech 14:4). But why did the Lord Jesus "return" early to save Paul on the road to Damascus?  Randy, I do not think Jesus does anything early--He is always right on time. Acts 9:3 "and it came about that as he (Paul) journeyed, he was approaching Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him: (This was a light from heaven---it does not say Jesus returned early), I know you are going to say Paul asked who it was, and the voice said "It is I, Jesus whom you persecute" I know this, Randy, and I agree with you on a lot of your views. I knew them 22 years ago, and I am still learning about this MYSTERY. I am just trying to share a little with you that the Lord has shown me, in regards to the gospel that Paul preached. We are in agreement on the fact there was "" A MYSTERY"". There still is a mystery to those who do not know it.

I actually think Jesus was still in heaven and they saw a light--- not Jesus himself. Anyway, no big deal to me, if it was Jesus, fine, if not, it was the light.... regardless i am still in agreement that there was a mystery and is a mystery---the NEW COVENANT---What was it? What is it today? There was a change in the priesthood, therefore there had to be a change in the law, also (Hebrews 7: 11-14). It is all New Covenant language. We have a new covenant based on new promises and new laws.

Acts 9:5, "And he said, who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks." There ya go! I should read before I respond eh?
The Lord Jesus did not save anyone else in that fashion. Paul was a chosen vessel and given an abundance of revelation, new things to teach for a new program, made him the apostle of the gentiles, and had him write 13 books of the New Testament. The twelve spoke to a resurrected Lord Jesus, yes, but Paul spoke to a resurrected and ascended Lord Jesus. Ok, I will agree with you on this. He spoke with Jesus; regardless if it was Him physically or not, Paul still spoke with him. Paul was given a new gospel based on the good news of the Lord Jesus death, burial, and resurrection. What is the new gospel? The New Covenant? Peter on the day of Pentecost did not preach the cross as good news, but an indictment to Israel that they called the Christ. The twelve did not preach the same gospel that’s why Paul had to go and communicate to them what he did preach, so I leave you with some verses indicating Paul’s special gospel given to him by revelation which is identified in 1 Cor 15:1-3. Thanks Randy, but this is only the basic tenant of our faith. It is “first base", if you will. Sure Paul preached Jesus came in the flesh, died for our sins, was buried, and was raised from the dead according to the scriptures. I agree with you, but what I find interesting, if you will just go a little further with me, Paul, himself says that 1 Corinthians 15:3-19 (See, we never take just one verse--- I always look at the whole covenant, the whole REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY) Here, Paul was speaking of the resurrection also (even more important than this----why was he speaking to them at Corinth? Why did he travel there? What did he do when he was there? Not just those 3-4 basic points, as great as the REVEALTION OF THE MYSTERY was and is, you cannot box Paul up in these few verses!) Paul was also speaking about the resurrection. So, after the basic belief in Jesus we must go a “little further " to see what he preached concerning us Gentiles and what were they to do with us? Were we the same as the JEWS? No. This is what Paul preached and taught---the revelation of the mystery is the New Covenant, revealed.

Please notice he (Paul) states in 1 Corinth 15:5 He (Jesus) appeared to Cephas first, then the twelve, after that He appeared to 500, and then appeared to James, then to all the apostles, "and last of all, as it were, to one untimely born, He appeared to me also. For I am the least of the apostles"... So Paul even says here: HE (JESUS) APPEARED TO THEM JUST AS HE DID TO ME. THE SAME WAY. So all I am saying is this--- it just might have been the light that he saw that blinded him. Either way, Jesus appeared to them all the same after His resurrection. I will agree to disagree if need be.


Galatians 2:1-2, "Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also. And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain." AMEN BROTHER, This is the quest that all mankind has been on---to reveal this mystery, the gospel that Paul preached! What was it? What is the revelation of the mystery? I am telling you, you need to read my book....

UNVEILING THE NEW COVENANT I will be sending you two FREE! Revealing the MYSTERY!!  One for you and one for your pastor--- a study guide. I would love to teach at your church some day. Also the cd's are on the way.

Galatians 2:6-7, "But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me: But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;" AMEN!

So we agree there are two different gospels-- 1 for the circumcised and another Paul preached to the uncircumcised? This is really good. Now, what was the difference in the 2 gospels? How were they different? What was different to the Jewish believers in Christ, in comparison to what was preached to us as Gentile believers in Christ? This is what my book is all about. UNVEILING THE MYSTERY OF THE NEW COVENANT!

Romans 2:16, "In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel." Amen.

Romans 16:25, "Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began," Eph 3:1-10 I love these verses.... "That by a revelation there was made known to me the mystery as I wrote before in brief (When was this?) and by referring to this, when you read, you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, that for ages has been hidden, but now it has been revealed to the holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit, to be specific, that the Gentiles are fellow heirs,"....... So here we are again, my friend, what were they to do with the Gentiles??? This is the mystery--- what were they commanded to do with them? Accept Jesus, and then what? Observe the old covenant--- because that was all they had then? All they had in writing was the O.C., so were the Gentiles told to follow it? Why did Paul even go to Ephesus? What was he doing there? Just preaching Jesus? No, there was more...

2 Timothy 2:8, "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:" I agree, but what was Paul's gospel: it was and is THE REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY OF THE NEW COVENANT--- unveiling the new covenant.

Galatians 1:11-12, "But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ." Amen brother, I am in agreement with you.

Randy, I do not actually know who knew what, until the Jerusalem Council. This is the turning point of the New Covenant--- until then we know they were preaching Jesus, BUT, what was to be done with these Gentile believers in Jesus? I think it took the whole council to decide ( all of them together, after much debate decided on this issue--with the Holy Spirit) Sure, Paul and Barnabas lead the council, but it was not until after this council, that they really laid or revealed the foundation of the MYSTERY OF THE NEW COVENANT.

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Paul, pleases excuse my spelling and punctuation below, I had to give you a quick response, talk to you later.

I agree with your point that when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the day of Pentecost only Jews were present to receive that. I also agree that the "door of faith" (Acts 14:27) to the Gentiles was opened later in the book of Acts, I believe primarily through the Apostle Paul who became the apostle of the Gentiles (Rom. 11:13), whereas the Jewish apostles had their ministry to the circumcision even when scattered into other countries (Acts 11:19). As the Gentiles began to get saved

They began to be saved and received the Holy Spirit in Acts 10 after Peter received the GREAT SHEET REVELATION 7-10 years after the day of Pentecost, they had a big counsel meeting in Acts 15, whether they should be under the law as the Jews, their answer was "no". It is a major turning point in the book of Acts which starts out focused with Peter and the apostles headquartered in Jerusalem with a Jewish church...... to Paul and his helpers headquartered in Antioch, Gentiles, body of Christ focused.

Ok here we see that they (Jews) were allowed to follow the old covenant laws BUT we as Gentiles were not allowed. There is a difference between Jewish and Gentile believers in Christ............2 different people, yet in one body.

The thing I would press you with to increase in your understanding yet the more is to recognize Paul as separate from the 12 apostles. Paul was a chosen vessel, who spoke to the ascended Lord Jesus

The 12 also spoke with the lord after his resurrection, (Acts 1) for 40 days Jesus taught them things concerning the Kingdom. Then they watched Him ascend into heaven. This was a 40 day period after His resurrection where Jesus personally taught them things concerning the Kingdom, but they still never received it. I do not think anyone of them did until Acts 15 at the council, after the council, I think they all understood the difference, I agree with you, Paul was definitely a chosen vessel and was different than the others.

who taught him by an abundance of revelation(2 Cor 12:7) what he was to preach and teach in this dispensation of the grace of God now that the Jews have temporarily fallen from their position(Rom 11:11,25).

They have fallen from there position as far as being the chosen people under a New Covenant--- they still have a position to accept Jesus the same as we can. As a matter of fact, Peter says we (Jews) can now be saved as they (Gentiles) can, by faith. Acts 15.

I believe Paul taught a different gospel (Gal 1:11, 12), under a different commission (2 Cor 5:18-20) than the 12 apostles.

The difference here is between the covenants--2 different people under 2 different covenants. Circumcision was an everlasting covenant with the Jews. Now there is a circumcision of the heart. Can Jewish believers still follow the old covenant laws and customs of Moses? Can they still circumcise their children and follow the OC? Yes, but can we? No......... Paul sure did! He taught the revelation of the mystery of THE NEW COVENANT----salvation was available to whosoever believes, BUT the Jews were different than us (Gentiles) under this New Covenant. They still could obey the Old Covenant laws and circumcision, the everlasting covenant WITH THE Jews. CIRCUMCISION was an everlasting covenant with the Jewish people. They still could sacrifice and follow the old covenant laws. Read Acts 21--- Paul made a Nazerite vow. This involved actually 4 different sacrifices under the old covenant. This was for Jews--- though they had decided this was not for Gentiles...

I like your emphasis on unity of believers in the body of Christ, but Paul in Ephesians does not tell us to "make unity" in Ephesians 4:3 but "endeavoring to KEEP the unity of the spirit"....the unity, and oneness is already there in the Scriptures, not organizational or denominational unity, but unity in the body and the 7 "ones" of Ephesians 4:3-6.

You will never achieve it (unity) through denominationalism, but denominationalism is man's feeble attempt to box up what God has given us. Just as you and your church would have to do as it would grow to be 1,000-10,000-100,000. See, it is men who make the rules of what you believe. I know... all of it is scripture. Well, that is what they thought also, until someone comes along with more revelation, more revelation, we are in agreement on a lot of what the New Covenant is all about. I think this will turn out to be an interesting relationship.